hialtus asked: There's this thing about Lion Hunting(thanks to that michelle bachman picture) with the lions more or less just lying around and how lion hunting is the most cowardly thing you can do, that has been going around, and although obviously you are cool with hunting in general, as am I, I was wondering as to your opinion on this phenomenon. Obviously traditional lion hunting(i.e. with spears) isn't cowardly, but... Thoughts?
Regardless of how people are going about these lion hunts in Africa (be it with a high-powered rifle, or with an atlatl), the fact of the matter is that it’s still perfectly legal, and that it still does more good than harm, regardless of how “cowardly” it may seem to animal rights activists. Being “brave” or “cowardly” is not the point of these hunts: The point of these hunts is that they keep wildlife reserves operational so that all animals within the park are safe from poachers.
Ms. Bachman likely paid more money to kill that lion than I did to buy my own house. All that money goes to help conservation efforts in the reserve where the lion was killed. In many cases, parks like that are privately run and cannot be sustained on eco-tourism alone. They would go out of business, thus leaving the park unprotected and the animals at the mercy of poachers, if not for carefully-regulated legal hunts like the one Ms. Bachman paid for.
In most cases, the target animals of these hunts are pre-picked by park guides before the hunt even begins because they are sick, old, or beyond breeding age, and are going to die anyway without further contributing to the survival of the species. The option is to either let said animal wither away on its own, allow it to fall prey to poachers, or to charge a hunter hundreds of thousands of dollars to kill it so that the money can go back to conservation.
Even the World Wildlife Funds recognizes the benefits of regulated hunting in Africa. It keeps poachers out of parks, brings in huge sums of profit to keep the establishments running, and the meat from the animals killed is donated to the indigenous people.
But so long as there’s a picture of a pretty woman posing next to a dead animal, everyone is going to ignore the facts and focus on how “horrible” and “cruel” the death of that one single animal was because logic < emotional bias.
I was just about to comment on that post going around, thank you for typing all this up so I didn’t have to lol. You nailed it.
FINALLY i am so sick of seeing that post.
Hmm. Hadn’t considered it in those terms.
if she’s so concerned bout the safety of the animals in the reserve, why not just, you know, give the reserve money, rather than buying the life of one of the animals she allegedly is concerned about?
Probably because the lion she killed was already determined by park officials to be a problem cat. It’s up to them to pick the target animal, and they know the lions in their park well enough to determine which are contributing to the ecosystem and which are not. For what ever reason, they decided it was time for that particular lion to go.
You’d have to take it up with them to know for certain, but in most cases, the target animals are chosen because they are sick, injured, feeding on livestock, or are encroaching on local settlements, etc. In other words, an animal whose termination was either inevitable or beneficial to the park as a whole.
In any event, the park officials know what’s best for the animals and the habitat in their charge. And they don’t expect people to just fork over money for no reason; the act of killing a lion and returning home with a trophy may not sit right with you, but it obviously sits right with Ms. Bachman, and it’s her right to determine what is and is not “okay” for herself.
Her beliefs regarding animal life are different from yours, and probably mine, too, but so long as it’s legal and provides much-needed income to protect the rest of the animals on the reserve, she’s still doing a hell of a lot more for the continued survival of the species than anyone complaining about it on the internet.
ALL OF THIS.
The funding (and lobbying powers) of folks who hunt can’t be ignored. One of the biggest wetlands conservation groups in the world is Ducks Unlimited- http://www.ducks.org. Here’s their position on hunting- http://www.ducks.org/about-du/du-position-on-hunting?poe=homeLink
I’m talking about DU here and not any African wildlife groups because I’m familar with them. As per Wikipedia, it has almost half a million members in the US and generates 180 million dollars a year, 80% of which goes directly towards habitat conservation. That is JUST the US branch- it’s a worldwide fund. Almost all those members are hunters- and hunters are some of the most passionate people out there about preserving wildlife for future generations.